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    I searched the forum and read through the postings on this, but saw the posting were old.

    Is anyone doing no shampoo or at least doing the baking soda paste on the scalp with a white vinegar rinse? I'd like to get away from shampoo and the chemicals in them.

    Also would like to find a body/face moisturizer out of natural products that is low salicylate. I've been using an oil of olay product after each shower as my face feels really dry after a shower. If I wait out the dryness and ignore it, it goes away.

    Thanks.

    CK
    • CommentAuthorStarlight
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2010
     
    I don't imagine anyone would use white vinegar because it is a Salicylate.
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    I started out only rinsing with baking soda/water for I think 2 weeks and progressed to dove bar soap for sensitive skin to wash hair..right now I'm using plain glycerine soap for hair/body and emu oil
    • CommentAuthorStedders68
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2010
     
    I have a severe salicylate intolerance but after trying lots of shampoos without success and awful side effects, I found a shampoo bar from Lush called Trichomania.

    I also use the Aloe Vera range of products from the Body Shop which includes face cream for day or night and also a soothing eye cream. I suffer with sensitive but also dry skin and found this works beautifully. But you have to remember that different things work for different people.
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2010
     
    Aloe Vera?!! Are you sure it isn't causing you any problems?
    • CommentAuthorStedders68
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
     
    Hi Rita,

    No aloe vera seems to be one of the safer things for me to use. Should I not be using it then?
    • CommentAuthorlizzbethsue
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2010 edited
     
    I have been using this for a bit now...seems to be lesser of the evils I guess; I use the "baby mild liquid soap" but i guess if you can't get it where you are "castile" soap would probably work...I found it in my local grocery store conveniently! (well I have been switching between this and plain glycerine soap and i think this stuff is less "sticky")
    It comes up as a "1" in www.cosmeticsdatabase.com
    I do however rinse well with baking soda/water mix after washing my hair and water after that...call me paranoid

    http://www.drbronner.com/DBMS/SENSITIVE.htm
    • CommentAuthorlindyd
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
     
    Hi Stedders68
    Aloe definitely contains salicylic acid (salicylates).. if you google it you will find lots of references.
    However if you are using these products and not getting any ongoing symptoms then I can't see a reason to stop.. perhaps the body shop products have a very low level of aloe and you are staying within your tolerance level using it?
    If you are still getting any ongoing symptoms you might want to stop the aloe products and see if it helps
    Love Lindy xx
    • CommentAuthorStedders68
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2010 edited
     
    Hi Lindy,

    Thanks for your comments. I'm new to this salicylate intolerance and still finding my way so any help is very much appreciated :o)

    After years of food problems, I was referred to a dermatologist who diagnosed me as having a severe intolerance. He wrote the word 'salicylate' down on a piece of paper and told me to go home and look it up on the internet. That's how much help I've received from the medical profession.

    After reading Rita's comments about the aloe, it got me thinking..... a couple of weeks ago I started to notice I was beginning to get very hot in the face (usual symptom - should have realised!) and my eyes were really sore and weepy. So after Rita's comments I set myself a test and I used the aloe vera eye cream just on one eye to see if I had a reaction and guess what..... I did!! When I first started using the aloe range from the Body Shop I had no reaction whatsoever so I can only assume that I've overloaded my body with aloe/salicylates.

    I'm really struggling to find products that suit me. I have very fine dry hair and also suffer from sensitive skin. I've recently found a website that claims to sell only natural products:

    http://www.handmadenaturals.co.uk/

    So far they look very natural but I've been spending hours researching products in supermarkets and have also spent a fortune on products that totally disagree with me. I have been reading other peoples tips and advice on skin and hair products, but I live in the UK and really can't afford to buy stuff online from the States.

    I have stopped using the aloe but what do I use instead?

    Would love to hear your suggestons and thank you again.

    Deb xx
    • CommentAuthorlindyd
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2010 edited
     
    Hi again Deb
    Sadly "natural" products are the worst thing you could use.. they generally have plant based ingredient which are often loaded with salicylates :o(
    ALL plants will contain some level of salicylates..it's just that some are lower than others..so unless you are sure if an ingredient is "low" it is best to avoid all plant ingredients in body care products.
    I live in the Uk and have found that some of the "Simple" range is ok for me. You need to read the labels carefully as some of their products do contain aloe or other plant ingredients so choose carefully.
    I personally can also use tresemme shampoo and conditioner without problems.
    My own rule of thumb is that I don't use a product if it contains "natural" ingredients, methyl or benzyl salicylate(obviously), or any ingredient beginning with "ben" or "sal", or is heavily perfumed.
    Lindy xx
    • CommentAuthorStedders68
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2010
     
    HI Lindy,

    Me again.....
    I will definitely rethink the "natural" products. Unfortunately I cannot use the Simple range of products, so I think I will have to carry on looking.
    I will have a look at the tresemme range and see if there is anything suitable. I suppose it's just trial and error? You get there eventually....

    Deb xx
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2010
     
    Lindy, thanks for fielding that one for me.

    Deb, I just noticed your post. It is true that some of us can tolerate foods or products on the high list, but usually that is not the case. I have learned that salicylates which are applied to your skin are even more potent that those that we eat because they enter into the bloodstream directly through the skin. Aloe vera was one of the ingredients that was responisble for the last of my "major" symptoms. It was hidden in plain sight in my soft soap. I use a little Aveeno without any problems, even though it does contain benzyl alcohol. It is trial and error. Just try to pick out things that have the least amount of ingredients.
    • CommentAuthorStedders68
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2010
     
    Hi Rita, I've recently bought the Aveena body moisturiser and it seems ok at the moment. I've started trying out different products but they contain very low amounts of almond oil and avocado oil. Do you know what the status is for almond oil? One list I read said moderate, but another list said very high - confused!! But they smell lovely :o)
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    Almond oil i reacted badly to..I didn't realize how many things that stuff is in until I reacted to "almond milk" and had to stop eating almonds. My husband was using soap with aloe in it and i was washing my hands and wondering why I was getting a numb tingly feeling in them that went to my face if i touched it after washing.
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    Thanks for the advice. Like you say there are so many products out there that contain almonds in some shape or form. Shame coz the products usually smell really yummy!!
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2010
     
    Deb, the general rule for most oils is they contain high sals. The reason being is that oils are usually derived from the seeds of the plant, and this is where plants store most of their sals to protect their most important assets. Their babies!

    Concerning the Aveeno lotion, I use just a small dab for my face mixed with water and just a little bit more for my hands mixed with water. Just enough to cut the dryness and keep the sal intake low.
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    Wow Rita, you are definitely a mine of information - thank you very much :o)

    It never occurred to me to mix Aveeno with water. I will definitely try it - thanks
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    I have been mixing lotion with emu oil...makes it more moisturizing and goes a long way
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    what's emu oil? is that something in the States?

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