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    • CommentAuthorlindyd
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2008
     
    Rita (and everyone!)
    Have you looked into or tried Milk Thistle (Silymarin)?
    The book I am reading at the moment talks about the inability to process sulphur, garlic, sulfites being a symptom of phase 2 liver enzymes being sluggish. It seems that the liver has 2 phases in detoxification, phase 1 involves up to 100 different enzymes ( cytochrome P450 group) which either detoxify toxins (ready for excretion) or covert toxins into different (still toxic) chemicals which are then attacked by phase 2 enzymes. When these phase 2 enzymes are deficient (possibly by a lack of glutathione?) then these converted toxins are not detoxed properly.( If there is a problem with sulfites I guess this would probably apply to salicylates too as there seems to be a big link between the two)
    Milk thistle enhances glutathione production and supports the liver.
    To upregulate a sluggish phase 2 system helpful foods are cabbage, brocolli, brussel sprouts, fish and fish oil help. However I cant eat any of these due to my sulphite/sulphur problems so it seems to be a vicious circle.
    I am going to add Milk thistle to my list of supplements!
    HUGS Lindy xx
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2008
     
    Hi Lindy

    I used to take milk thistle extract many many years ago when I was younger. I cant remember why I took this but I think as we has sals issues milk thistle would not really be suitable as it is obviously plant extract.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_Thistle

    This is a good definition of milk thistle.

    Let us know if it agrees with you Lindy. I know no two of us are the same and we all as individuals react differently but will be interesting to see how you get on with it if you decide to go ahead with it.

    How are things going with you otherwise?
    Take care
    Teddy x
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2008 edited
     
    Lindy, you know, I've stayed away from milk thistle as my initial studies pointed out that they do contain sals. And thinking it was some type of herb, which are usually high in sals, I haven't looked into it. I have added fish oil supplements to my routine. I take them two times a week, since I have bleeding issues. But from the get go, I found that they had a very positive effect on my general mood. And I feel they are also affecting the stability of my blood sugar levels which continues to improve, unless I really overdo it. Good research. Just remember to start with really small amounts. Will be interested to see how you fare. And I hope you will fare well. Not like "good bye" or anything. You know what I mean! lol
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    Dear Rita,
    Which fish oil supplements do you use?

    Jx
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2008
     
    I purchased mine from Trader Joe's. It's called Trader Darwin's Salmon Oil.
  2.  
    Dear Rita,

    Thank you. Shall look out for a UK alternative. Is there a discussion i have missed on fish oils and capsules and the like?

    Thanks again. Have been reading some of the discussions. Some of you have really really been through the mill. I am so sorry you have had such a scary and difficult time. I can't imagine. i really do wish you well.

    Jx
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2008
     
    J, ya, that would be me, been through the mill. I don't think there are any passed discussions that you missed on fish oil in particular. Just thrown in here and there. But it is known to be a very important nutrient that many people lack and is very important for optimal health.
  3.  
    Dear Rita,

    Are some fish oils better tolerated than others?

    Jx
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    My son, Charlie (7) has just started the RPA Elimination diet. We saw a great improvement in his behaviour. His chiro gave him Silymarin and since things have started to fall apart. It occured to me last night that this may contain sals at it is the only thing different we have been doing with his diet. So glad I found this site. I am going to remove them from his diet now.
    • CommentAuthorpippa
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2010
     
    Does anyone know if fish oils , Salmon or cod thin the blood, even if they do not contain sals ?
    • CommentAuthorlindyd
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2010
     
    Omega 3 fatty acids have a blood thinning effect, therefore the higher the omega 3 content of the fish the greater the blood thinning effect.
    Fish highest in omega 3 are: Anchovies, Salmon, Albacore tuna, Mackerel, Lake Trout, Herring .
    Cod has a lower amount.
    Blood thinning is a positive health effect for those who don't already have bleeding issues - salicylates also thin the blood and as we are getting hardly any in our diet this may be an issue.
    However anyone who is on blood thinning drugs or have bleeding issues should contact their medical professional before taking fish oil supplements.
    Unfortunately many of us find we cannot tolerate fish oils
    Lindy xx
    • CommentAuthorpippa
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2010
     
    Thank you Lindy for the info. I have a bleeding issue and am on a low sals diet and wanted jto make sure about the oils before I tried any of them. Perhaps when my bleeding has improved I will try Cod liver oil.
    • CommentAuthorPossum
    • CommentTime1 day ago
     
    Being plant based....Ah that explains why it didn't seem to help me...;-) Thanks!! This forum is so seriously useful!! It's answered heaps of my questions!!!
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTime6 hours ago
     
    Pippa, are you taking vitamin K for your bleeding?